We want to meet what is hard and hurting. I would say about 50 percent, maybe 60 percent of it was written during the pandemic. But I think there was something deeper going on there, which was that idea of, Oh, this is when you pack up and you move. And I even had a pet mouse named Fred, which you would think I wouldve had a more creative name for the mouse, but his name was Fred. Theres a lot of different People. And theres sort of an invitation at the end. Tippett: as you said, to give instruction or answers, where to give answers would be to disrespect the gravity of the questions. Centuries of pleasure before us and after. An accomplished journalist, author, and entrepreneur, she was awarded the National Humanities Medal in 2014. And now Ill just say it again: they are the publisher of the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. Is it okay? The danger of all poets and I think artists in general, is it some moment we think we dont deserve to do this work because what does it do? the pummeling of youth. Tippett: Something I remember reading is that you grew up in an English-speaking household, but your paternal grandfather spoke Spanish and that you just loved to listen to him. Oh, Im stressed. Oh, if you want to know about stress, let me tell you, Im stressed., I like to tell my friends when they say theyre really stressed, Ill be like, Oh, I took the most wonderful nap. Find them at, Dedicated to reconnecting ecology, culture, and spirituality. So I feel like the last one Id like for you to read for us is A New National Anthem, which you read at your inauguration as Poet Laureate. In fact, Krista interviewed the wise and wonderful Ocean Vuong right on the cusp of that turning, in March 2020, in a joyful and crowded room full of podcasters in Brooklyn. If you had thought about it And you said that this would be the poem that would mean that you would never be Poet Laureate. In me, a need to nestle deep into the safekeeping of sky. This means that I am in a reciprocal relationship with the natural world, not that it is my job to be the poet that goes and says, Tree, I will describe it to you. [audience laughs] I have a lot of poems that basically are that. Krista Tippett leaves public radio. And yet at the same time, I do feel like theres this Its so much power in it. Were back at the natural world of metaphors and belonging. It feels important to me, right now, because I want to talk to you about this a little bit, what weve been through. I want to say first of all, how happy I am to be doing something with Milkweed, which I have known since I moved to Minnesota, I dont know, over a quarter century ago, to be this magnificent but quiet, local publisher. We read for sense. Page 40. cigarette smoke or expertise in recipes or, reading skills. Krista Tippett is Peabody Award-winning broadcaster and New York Times best-selling author. We were brought together in a collaboration between Northrop at the University of Minnesota and Milkweed Editions. And both parents all four of my parents, I should say would point those things out, that special quality of connectedness that the natural world offers us. Limn: Yeah. Youre going to be like, huh. Or youll just be like, That makes total sense to me., At the top of the mountain [laughter] Sometimes its just staring out the window. Tippett: I feel like it brings us back to wholeness somehow. Cracking time open, seeing its true manifold nature, expands a sense of the possible in the here and the now. writes the word lover in a note and Im strangely, excited for the word lover to come back. into anothers green skin, And the Sonoma Coast is a really special place in terms of how its been preserved and protected throughout the years. It comes back to these questions of like, Why do I get to be lucky in this way? No, to the rising tides. (Unedited) The Dalai Lama, Jonathan Sacks, Katharine Jefferts Schori, and Seyyed Hossein Nasr with Krista Tippett. This is not a problem. And it wasnt until really, when I was writing that poem that the word came to me. In fact, Krista interviewed the wise and wonderful Ocean Vuong right on the cusp of that turning, in March 2020, in a joyful and crowded room full of podcasters in Brooklyn. So we have to do this another time. Thats such a wonderful question. Come back, Many have turned to David Whyte for his gorgeous, life-giving poetry and his wisdom at the interplay of theology, psychology, and leadership his insistence on the power of a beautiful question and of everyday words amidst the drama of work as well as the drama of life. I think coming back to this idea that poetry is as embodied as it is linguistic. And I am so thrilled to have this conversation with Ada Limn to be part of our first season. [laughs] And I think Id just like to end with a few more poems. if we declared a clean night, if we stopped being terrified. Tippett: I do feel like you were one of the people who was really writing with care and precision and curiosity about what we were going through. The fear response, the stress response, it had so many other kinds of ripple effects that were so perplexing. , there are these two poems on facing pages, that both have fire in the title. Wilkerson, winner of the Pulitzer Prize and the National Humanities Medal, has become a leading figure in narrative nonfiction with The Warmth of Other Suns and Caste. Tippett: Because I couldnt decide which ones I wanted you to read. KRISTA TIPPETT, HOST: We're increasingly attentive, in our culture, to the many faces of depression and its cousin, anxiety, and we're fluent in the languages of psychology and medication.But depression is profound spiritual territory; and that is much harder . But I mean, Ive listened to every podcast shes done, so Im aware. And sometimes when youre going through it, you can kind of see the mono-crop of vineyards that its become. I think thats very true. just the bottlebrush alive to lean in the spotlight of streetlight with you, toward And I want you to read it. That is real but its not the whole story of us. It just offers more questions. the Red River Gorge, the fistful of land left We believe healthy spiritual inquiry propels us outside the boundaries of the self, into the world. We hold each other. We prioritize busyness. Right. But time is more spacious than we imagine it to be, and it is more of a friend than we always know. Jen Bailey, and so many of you. Thats page 95. abundance? Why that color? no one has been writing the year lately. Or theres just something happens and you get all of a sudden for it to come flooding back. But I think the biggest thing for me is to begin with silence. The Fetzer Institute, supporting a movement of organizations applying spiritual solutions to societys toughest problems. I feel like the short poem, maybe read that one, the After the Fire poem is such a wonderful example of so much of what weve been talking about, how poetry can speak to something that is impossible to speak about. My grandmother is 98. We think were divided by issues, arguing about conflicting facts. And whats good for my body and my mental health. All of those things. Copyright 2023, And if youd like to know more, we suggest you start with our. Sometimes youre, and so much of its. 10 distinct works Similar authors. I think I enjoy getting older. She is a former host of the poetry podcast. We have been in the sun. Limn: Exactly. And then I would be like, Okay, I was there. And the next day Id wake up and be like, Well, I was there yesterday. And I knew immediately that it was a love poem and a loss poem. Peabody Award-winning host Krista Tippett presents a live, in-person recording of the wildly popular On Being podcast, featuring guest speaker Isabel Wilkerson. So well just be on an adventure together. Weve come this far, survived this much. Written and read by On Being with Krista Tippett. On Being with Krista Tippett On Being Studios Society & Culture 4.6 9.1K Ratings; A season of big, new, beautiful On Being conversations is here. Okay, Im going to give you some choices. Transcription by Alletta Cooper Krista Tippett: I really believe that poetry is something we humans need almost as much as we need water and air. Draco, Lacerta, Hydra, Lyra, Lynx. Every week, the show hosts thoughtful . Foundations 4: Calling and Wholeness On Being with Krista Tippett Society & Culture In the modern western world, vocation was equated with work. And is it okay for me to spend time looking at this tree? I feel like theres so many elements to that discovery. We offer it here as an audio experience, and we think you will enjoy being in the room retroactively. SHARE. And it sounds like thunder? And also, I read somewhere that Sundays were a day that you were moving back and forth between your two homes, your parents divorced and everybody remarried. on all sides with want. Find Krista Tippett's email address, contact information, LinkedIn, Twitter, other social media and more. bliss before you know Well, a lot of us I think are still a little agoraphobic. I never go there very much anymore. For me, I have pain, so Ive moved through the body in pain. I get four parents that come to the school nights. And I felt like I was not brave enough to own that for myself. [audience laughs] And he had a little cage, I would make sure he was And he would get bundled up and carried from house to house. And if you cant have hope, I think we need a little awe, or a little wonder, or at least a little curiosity. And I kept thinking how I missed all my family, and I missed my father and his wife, and I missed my mother and stepfather. Tippett: Well, a lot of us I think are still a little agoraphobic. And that was in shorter supply than one would think. And I love it, but I think that you go to it, as a poet, in an awareness of not only its limitations and its failures, but also very curious about where you can push it in order to make it into a new thing. of the mother and the child and the father and the child And I think for all of us, kind of mark this, which is important. What a time to be alive, adrienne maree brown has written. You ever think you could cry so hard and desperate, enough of the brutal and the border, enough of can you see me, can you hear me, enough. Articles by Krista Tippett on Muck Rack. Our lovely theme music is provided and composed by Zo Keating. [laughs]. And when people describe you as a poet, theyll talk about things about intimacy and emotional sincerity and your observations of the natural world. out. This is amazing. But its true. Yeah. Youre very young. Copyright 2023. But each of us has callings, not merely to be professionals, but to be friends, neighbors, colleagues, family, citizens, lovers of the world. The On Being Project is located on Dakota land. Yeah. And you have said that you fell in love with poetry in high school. Yeah. Yeah, because its made with words, but its also sensory and its bodily. And so much of what were seeing brings us back to intelligence that has always been in the very words we use gut instinct, for instance. In generational time, they are stitching relationship across rupture. And so, its so hard to speak of, to honor, to mark in this culture. Yeah. and the one that is so relieved to finally be home. Krista Tippett. We are in the final weeks as On Being evolves to its next chapter in a world that is evolving, each of us changed in myriad ways we've only begun to process and fathom. This might be hard for some of you right here. With an unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief this conversation holds not only what we have traversed these last years, but how we live forward. I have people who ask me, How do you write poems? And you talk about process. squeal with the idea of blissful release, oh lover. capture, capture, capture. It wasnt used as a tool. And actually, it seemed to me that your marriage was in fine shape. is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. that thered be nothing left in you, like And its funny to tell people that youre raised an atheist because theyre like, Really? But I was. Limn: Yes. Im really longing I realized as I was preparing for this, Im just Of course, I read poetry, I read a lot of poetry in these last years, but I realized Im craving hearing poetry. We keep forgetting about Antlia, Centaurus, The conversation that resulted with the Jewish-Buddhist teacher and psychotherapist Sylvia Boorstein has been a companion to her and to many from that day forward. I do think I enjoy it. This conversation shines a light on an emerging ecosystem in our world over and against the drumbeat of what is fractured and breaking: working with the complex fullness of reality, and cultivating old and new ways of seeing, to move towards a transformative wholeness of living. So it was always this level in which what was being created and made as he was in my life was always musical. And when so much of the natural world was burned, and I kept thinking about all the trees and the birds and the wildlife. Limn: I do think I enjoy it. Krista interviewed her in 2015, and it quickly became a much-loved show as her voice was just rising in common life. And just as there are callings for a life, there are callings for our time. Every week: practices and goodies to accompany your listen. Oh, definitely. Science and the Human Spirit. Suppose its easy to slip Im really longing I realized as I was preparing for this, Im just Of course, I read poetry, I read a lot of poetry in these last years, but I realized Im craving hearing poetry. . with their fish tanks or eight-tracks or And the one Id love you to read is Not the Saddest Thing in the World. This is the one where I felt like theres subtlety to it, but you just named so much in there. And for us, it was Sundays. And the title comes from when youre planting a tree and youre looking for where the sun is the right space, you can draw where the circles are, and theyll tell you to plant where the circles overlap. Precisely at a moment like this, of vast aching open questions and very few answers we can agree on, our questions themselves become powerful tools for living and growing. Rate. And it is definitely wine country and all of the things that go along with that. [laughs] I get four parents that come to the school nights. And I felt like I was not brave enough to own that for myself. The Pause. And there was an ease, I think, that living in the head-only world was kind of a poets dream on some level. Yeah. And I wonder if you think about your teenage self, who fell in love with poetry. Supporting organizations and initiatives that uphold a sacred relationship with life on Earth. I really believe that poetry is something we humans need almost as much as we need water and air. And even as it relieves us of the need to sum everything up. You should take a nap.. Our closing music was composed by Gautam Srikishan. Between the ground and the feast is where I live now. That really spoke to me, on my sofa. the date at the top of a letter; though And I knew that at 15. Just back to this idea that there is this organic automatically breathing thing of which were part, and that we even have to rediscover that. She founded and leads the On Being Project ( www.onbeing.org )a groundbreaking media and public life . Black bark, slick yellow leaves, a kind of stillness that feels, We point out the stars that make Orion as we take out. Limn: Yeah. Yeah, there wasnt a religious practice. Limn: Because I love this poem, and no one has ever asked me to read this poem. Tippett: And poetry is absolutely this is not something I knew would happen when I started this but poetry now is at the heart of On Being, its woven through everything. And I found it really useful, a really useful tool to go back in and start to think about what was just no longer true, or maybe had never been true. And now we have watched it in these 25 years go from strength, to strength, to strength. teeth right before they break Helping to build a more just, equitable and connected America one creative act at a time. The truth is, Ive never cared for the National, Anthem. And I know that when I discovered it for myself as a teenager that I thought, Oh, this is more like music where its like something is expressing itself to you and you are expressing yourself to it. I grew up in Glen Ellen in Sonoma, California, born and raised. Perhaps And actually, it seemed to me that your marriage was in fine shape. So my interest, when I get into conversation with a poet, is not to talk, poetry, but to delve into what this way with words and sound and silence teaches us. The phrase mental health itself makes less and less sense in light of the wild interactivity we can now see between what weve falsely compartmentalized as physical, emotional, mental, even spiritual. 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