My favorites in their calibers, cherished in my collections. You cannot exempt large businesses from onerous regulations that you impose on small businesses. Beretta (ex-MD) and Remington (ex-NY) make your statements look foolish. I have LOUDLY mentioned their treachery on the dozens of FB groups I belong to. If you want to scope your BM 59, there is a company that makes a direct over the bore scope kit for Garands that fits the BM59. They can spout their support of the 2A all day, just like Shannon Watts does, but its just words. AR Parts. Its not just selling, genius. Theres no way to know for sure. I really wanted a trp and a cqb but oh well will get something from another manufacturer. If people werent buying at these prices than there would be no market. All things considered, a Henry Big Boy in .44mag is more likely to see the inside of my safe than a M1A1. If one of them didnt actually know about this then thats really not fair. Antifa is showing what they are willing to do, watch their fellow komrad take a LEO beanbag round to the wang and keep marching. And their ammo prices were astronomical. Magpul moved. An American voting for a Democrat Rock Rivers LAR-15 NSP CAR is a lightweight, reliable, well-made and accurate AR carbine that is ready for duty right out of Asit should. What gets me is there has been plenty of time and opportunity for damage control or to save face but they havent done anything to fix what theyve done. Down side is nobody making spare mags for it yet other than Hornor Defense. If Rauner is serious about re-election he will veto this flaming sack of shite. Thanks Springfield. We can live without them much better than they can live with out us. Now I wish I had not. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. We want our dealers and our valued customers to know we wont ever do anything like this again., We fully support the Second Amendment and stand by it. Maybe thats the case in many instances, but its not like the IFMA has thousands of members. Was going to purchase a TRP and was looking at RRA ar. Because of rumors of canceled orders. The firearms community will be better without them. And yes, they are actually closer to Iowa than to Chicago. Beretta kicked Maryland to the curb for their ridiculous gun laws. Not cheap by any stretch of the imagination, but check out Fulton Armory: http://www.fulton-armory.com/M14-Rifles.aspx. The company makes a wide variety of weapons, including AR-15 and M16 rifles, as well as pistols, shotguns, and bolt-action rifles. But do they double down on their error (Target) or put things into place that not only fix the error but make them new and better than ever. Brownells, Midway, Primary arms, Rainer, Wing Tactical, and SG Ammo are my favorite online retailers. Allexcept for gun owners and the non-big box store gun dealers who have to live and work in the Land of Lincoln. Katrina gun confiscation showed us what any civil conflict will have as the belligerents, LEOs / Feds posing as LEOs giving you a hard choice.and a few Bundy-style standoffs. They are good weapons but I Cant help but feel betrayed when I look at them now. Now Springfield will learn the hard way. Its transfers. The bills author was (mostly) Rugers attorneys. Welp. As a collector of modern handguns, I was very interested in Springfields new XD-E and was hoping to find one as soon as they became available until all of this political posturing took place in Illinois (I live in neighboring Indiana). Bill Ruger retired from the company in 2000 and died in 2002. If this bill actually passes, I think the hit should be pretty severe. Great gun. once you jump in bed with the marketing types. I posted a similar comment on another article about the same subject matter, but again, and for emphasis: SPRINGFIELD IS DEAD TO ME. Never bought anything Springfield Armory, never will! All businesses are licensed at the state level. Thats a double-whammy of reduced demand in the current market. You are both dead to me now. Initially I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but after I thought about Reeses statement, and now that Ive seen Larsons statement, I would have liked to see hecklers run Springfields employees right out of Atlanta. What would I do if I was RRA and SAI? AR-10-style rifles, the Rock River Arms LAR-8 stands alone. WebProduct Description. We do not need traitors in our midst. Thats rolling over and showing your belly while wagging your tail. Two companies provide the bulk of the funding for IFMA:Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms. Most places, its still over $1500. That is only if Springfield Arms survives this. WebRock River Arms Two Stage Match Trigger Kit4.5-5 lbThe RRA match AR trigger kit is designed for AR-15 and AR-10 Mil-Spec lower receivers with .154 trigger and hammer pins. I will now buy another LAR-8 in case you idiots force RRA out of business. There is NOTHING I need from a company that is obviously manipulating the system for themselves. That will never happen now. Who Makes Rock River Arms? Many companies make mistakes, sometimes huge. I was going to buy the Saint, seemed like a.nice rifle, now.they can piss up a rope. Last Updated. Olympic Arms continued this legacy with its OA-93, OA-96 and OA-98 models. and thats where the idea of 10 round limit for magazines originated,right from the mouth of Bill Ruger. This says a lot about the people running the company. Dont forget about the Ruger, Smith and Wesson sellout.. Thanks for Nothing SA. There are millions of people in the US who no longer think that its enough to fight and die for these rights. In the end, the timing proved fortuitous to all involved. So, buying 5 and selling 4 is the limit. You can not name another firearms manufacture today that has done more than Ruger to support the NRA, the 2A and firearms owners. Simply offering ideas and encouragement. It will make my future purchases easier because two manufacturers are automatically removed from my search and consideration. Helps to have the older experience but not insurmountable. Watch the TonyBen videos on YouTube. Enjoy 45% Off Rock River Arms Goods At Walmart. Good luck RRA. These fat dumb and happy political hacks arent used to burning time and money on issues this far out. Maybe worst of all, passage gives anti-gunners a win they desperately needed. The law doesnt get past the senate without Springfields cooperation. I can promise that none, and I mean none of my not unsubstantial refund, is going to wind up in Springfields receivables account. Specifications and Features: Rock River Arms AR-15 Magazine AR0116N30 .223 Remington and 5.56 NATO 30 Round Capacity Anti-Tilt Follower Proven Reliability Rock River Arms has a reputation for making high quality AR-15s, but they also have a reputation for being expensive. But theyve already heard from their customers about the IFMA sell-out. Czech Republic makes good guns,like CZs. S&W was owned by a British company who were forced to sell their company for pennies on the dollar. The plant where that rifle is made revitalized the area n which it is made. They did what they had to do to stay profitable just like companies in Kalifornia and NewYork and liberal bastions. Hislobbyist will continue to fight and protect dealers and gun owners? Looked at a custom SA 1911 before purchasing an STI. Your arguments are supercilious and embarrassingly logic free. At least the company would survive, even if the move was costly. Do you rednecks and white trash go out of your way to get the their wrong every single time? They are actively editing social media but refuse to address the issue. A CEO that listens to the customer. But I struggle with the NEVER AGAIN WILL I EVER SUPPORT THIS COMPANY. Lobbying groups run on a lot of assumptions and they dont take a vote from membership every time a change is made to a bill that they think concerns their members. Most dont buy a gun thinking about selling it down the road, bit it happens. Its sad but it happens. And dont give me this they have changed nonsense. (And I can guarantee he would never speak to me like that in person.). Find Senators and Representatives in close political battles last election and get their previously defeated opponents on board. Please, spend your money where you want. The licensing fee? I think that if gun owners boycotted every company into oblivion that had to compromise at some point there wouldnt be any gun manufacturers around. So, youre not buying a bunch of Springfields new pistols? I asked one. Its like trying to work with Bloomberg himself. Start by giving everyone involved a TSA-style probe. The more concentrated the producers and sellers of firearms becomes the easier it will be to controlled and monitored. They MUST be boycotted into bankruptcy. see: gasoline supply during any natural disaster where the govt threatens to prosecute profiteers. Some times they have deals. Well also work on the NRA to start taking a firmer stance against rogue anti-2A manufacturers, no matter how much advertising space they buy. I realy liked this ranger officer mogel all stainless nice looking gun. But Illinois only has about 2.1m gun owners of 12m population thats fewer by a significant margin than the number of hard-core urban Dems in Chicago alone. These lobbyists arent in business to protect gun owners or the Second Amendment. Keyboard commandos wont fight it out on any battlefield. The lobbyists sometimes seriously overestimate how happy something will make a member or simply dont have the time to keep the membership completely up to date with minute-by-minute updates on how wrangling over a bill is proceeding. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. How did the unveiling of the new pistol go? Cant beat that! Thank God we have a Rural King now here local. Rock River Arms sent me a 6.5 Creedmoor rifle with a tan stock and 24-inch barrel for testing. More recently, they do this big Saint countdown/reveal that just ends up being Another Entry-Level AR-15, just what the market needed. Illinoying is pushing to get shut down. I hope that it will bankrupt them, for it appears to be the only way these gun companies will learned to to alienate their comsumers. How does what a lobbying group receives from a company 3 years ago translate to what the lobbying group does in the present? I am not positive, but didnt Beretta get so pissed with Maryland that they moved everything, or is it still on going? Even cosmetologists and lawyers. Thats how capitalism works. Under no circumstances would they sell me any magazines. Granted, the company isnt run by a Henry these days but I thought the paper trail of ownership was fairly clear and unbroken. Nobody moves a company to New York (Remington has moved most out). Other places have them for $200.00. I would sell the xd .45 and the xdm 9mm I already have but I dont think there is much of a market for them now. Yes, very disappointed. CTD does our best to price our products at market value. Meanwhile, over at the Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. After Ruger (finally) gets all of its new products launched they will have just about all the bases covered. I want to see how they fix the mess they created with the people who liked their product. As has been said by numerous others, that Springer I had thought about buying just got thrown under the bus. Whats more, Larsonseems genuinely appalled by what happened. So an opportunity to block others selling in Illinois seemed like a quick and dirty way to make a few more bucks. RRA and Mr Larson are the only ones who can make a reliable AR-10. Rock River Arms has built a reputation as a quality maker of modern sporting rifles and offers an extremely diverse list of models and options. You see once you jump in bed with the marketing types and throw millions at image you quickly discover that your rudder fell off long ago and now youre not sure what you stand forif anything. This product has an average rating of 4 stars out of 5 stars from 3 ratings. Personally hate to hear whenever CEOs or head honchos make public decisions costing their employees jobs/money. Tennessee welcomed Beretta with open arms and the employment of a lot a lot of people in well-paying jobs. You can bet our sport; Henry wouldnt have gone along with that. Like a shrewd negotiator, Harmonhappily added a manufacturer and big box retailer carve-out to the bill so he couldcobble together the last few votes he needed to get it through the Senate. In fairness, Sprin gfield Arm ory isnt the only one to co-opt a name that it had no connection to (cough-Henry-cough). WebRock River Arms LAR-15 X-1 5.56mm Black Semi-Auto Rifle with RRA Beast Muzzle Brake Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: XAR1751B; Rock River Arms LAR-15 X-1 5.56mm Flat Dark Earth (FDE) Semi-Auto Rifle with RRA Beast Muzzle Br Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: XAR1751T; After asking you if youd like to sign up for a membership, and cc insurance. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/28141995/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/illinois-has-long-legacy-public-corruption/, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_state_and_local_politicians_convicted_of_crimes. We need to defend our legacy from the likes of them !! As the market changes so does our pricing. Anyway, at least for now, I will bide my time and see if Springfield repents and takes positive actions to atone for their irrational IL acts. The local ones are more like highway bandits than gun dealers. Some mightsay IFMAs change of heart might not have made a definitive difference. Springfield, on the other hand, has gone silent. Its their prerogative. Bill is long gone and the last 15yrs of Ruger leadership have taken a much different stance. Anyone who tries will come out worse for the experience. However, the R-51 is a bear to clean and still hasnt proven itself totally for CC, coming off its well documented ill fated Gen 1 launch and Remingtons continued reliability issues. Illinois acts like an evil, independant country when it comes to our Second Amendment rights, ignoring law and constantly jockeying for ways to squelch our right of self-protection through our right to bear arms. I had some AR parts on order a few days before Sands Hook. Fight it. Totally revitalized the economy of an American community with their 3rd plant. Ive never had better customer service with any other business. Built on the companys RRAGE upper and lower receiver and handguard assemblies, the pistol delivers a sleek profile. The NRA would likely throw you and your fliers in the dumpster. For a while there, post SAFE-ACT passage, it looked like 10-round (I know, right) mags were going to be outlawed. Cancelled orders? Pretty small and isolated country town. The idea being that this bill is so toxic that Senators passing it or the Governor signing it will be drawn into a wide-ranging financial and criminal probe. Tell us more about your experience in running a business. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 Lightweight Mountain Rifle | MT1800X 5.56 NATO (223 Rem), 16" Chrome-Moly Lightweight BBL, Semi-Automatic, 6-Position Black Stock, Black Finish, RRA Lightweight, 30+1 Rds. My SA 1911 Loaded Target has been my favorite pistol since I bought it last year. I had the EMP4 Contour and a TRP on my 2017 list. Do you know how much the dealer bought them for? But thats only a fraction of his treachery. Advertise their treachery. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Aluminum Mags Just Starting At $14.00 At Rock River Arms. As far as the trigger, if the RRA has the 2-stage trigger, it is much better than the stag. Maybe the deal was the result ofa lobbyist gone rogue. RRA donated money as well I think they knew about stuff going on, but want to pretend they did not. And no one calls or emails the company that is one of the largest contributor the IFMA group. He didnt say, Hey, we screwed up. Huh? I think they and Illinois deserve each other and I hope they both end up on the wrong end of history. Free Shipping On Most Rifles, Upper Halves And Complete Lower Halves. This should put some perspective on how important this issue is to many of us. If RRA really didnt know about this, then their next steps should be to cancel their membership in IFMA, denounce the lobying they did, and maybe start looking to move. Layoffs to follow. And if stooges like you thought this could be run under the table without anyone noticing, well, guess you should be mindful of your business in the next few quarters. As far as Im concerned, Smith and Wesson are still shit given they operate in communist MA and they should have packed up an left after what that bitch Maura Healey did last year. You write as though weve been asleep. You should buy a BCM, Daniel Defense, or LWRC. Out of stock. If RRA didnt know about this and, as a sign of their disgust, drops their funding and membership in the trade group youd still hold them accountable? If you apply more than 9 make-ups in a year, you are in cosmetology businesses. Have been eyeballing the SA Saint the last couple weeks. Absolutely love them. No other IL manufacturers donated, not Armalite, not DSA, nada. Huh? As if they want to implode. With all the gun control in northern Illinois how the hell can they screw all of us like this! Who the hell made this business decision and have they been fired yet? What part of their history am I missing Gov? Join up with other interest groups if common goals can be found. In the end, the timing proved fortuitous to all involved.. James Jeffrey, the author's friend, God Bless America, As a dealer I will no longer suggest either one of these firearm companies to my customers or stock them there are many other fine firearms on the market. They make a so-so M14 copy that can only stand up because Norinco cant export their el-cheapo copy here anymore. Or in the General Assembly. Those bastards. RRA IS THE ONLY COMPANY THAT CAN MAKE A RELIABLE AR-10. Never buying anything from springfield ever again and my one xdm is up for sale as of yesterdayI dont even want it in my safe. A corrupt Illinois politician. I read somewhere that there is a city named Springfield in almost every state in the Union. For folks like me, it is no longer enough to be willing to fight and die for these rights, but to be willing to kill for them as well. There is a story of a guy that got run out of business after a hurricane because he jacked his prices up for generators. Theyre both stuck now. This is income tax refund time. Today, we have nearly one dozen gun control groups working in Illinois. Springfields CEO on the other hand, either through stupidity, hamhandedness or outright lying has seriously damaged his company. Made in US, SSteel frame, ambi controls, no mag safety, field strips/assembles in less than a minute with no tools or pulling trigger. What opinion? Sure, the majority will be DOA, but blue and swing states will see this get passed using this an example of good gun control that even firearms companies support. Never a single problem, thousands of rounds. they should have fought not laid over. Screw CTD. SA created it). My hard earned money is going to be spent at Ruger. Wheres the proof they had enough influence to dictate what that organization did. Nice deal on it until 4 July as well. An xdm9 and a 1911 loaded. Smith and Wessons deal with the Klinton regime also brought us the infamous and deplorable hillary hole internal lock. I considered buying an XDs when I was looking for a conceal carry, glad I bought something else. Its GENESEO and its still about 3 hours from Chicago. So I went on a buying spree. WebRock River Arms is a firearms manufacturer that produces a variety of rifles, pistols, and parts for civilian, law enforcement, and military markets. Since you researched IFMA you also noticed that the $100K was the ONLY money they had in their account, donated by only two companies, SAI and RRA. Well, said. Hes totally grasping at straws on that point in his video. Lots of work. 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